11/6/02

LC021106

VAL ZAVALA>> TONIGHT ON LIFE AND TIMES --

JESS MARLOW>> THEY LOST THE BATTLE TO BREAK AWAY FROM LOS ANGELES, BUT SECESSIONISTS SAY THEY’LL STILL HOLD THE MAYOR’S FEET TO THE FIRE.

RICHARD KATZ>> IT’S NOW UP TO THE CITY TO SAY THEY GOT THE MESSAGE THAT WAS SENT LOUD AND CLEAR LAST NIGHT, THAT THIS MOVEMENT FOR LOCAL CONTROL AND SMALLER, MORE RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT IS BIGGER THAN JUST ANY ONE ELECTION.

VAL>> THE GOVERNOR CALLS IT A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE SQUEAKING PAST BILL SIMON, SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT NOW THAT GRAY DAVIS HAS WON? BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SOME DEMOCRATS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT A DAVIS RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.

JESS>> PATT MORRISON REJOICES THAT ELECTION 2002 IS OVER, OR IS IT?

PATT MORRISON>> WHEN IS WINNING REALLY LOSING? WHEN THE POLITICKING DOESN’T STOP ON ELECTION NIGHT -- ON TONIGHT’S INFINITELY MORRISON.

VAL>> AND THEN A LOOK AT THE POLITICIAN WHO STARTED IT ALL. GEORGE WASHINGTON IS HEADED TO LOS ANGELES, OR AT LEAST A FAMOUS PORTRAIT OF THE FOUNDING FATHER IS, AND TONIGHT WE’LL HAVE DETAILS ON WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT.

JESS>> THESE STORIES COMING UP NEXT ON LIFE AND TIMES.

LIFE AND TIMES TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE FOLLOWING FOUNDATIONS:

THE L.K. WHITTIER FOUNDATION
DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE BY SUPPORTING INNOVATIVE ENDEAVORS IN THE FIELDS OF MEDICINE, HEALTH, SCIENCE AND EDUCATION.

AND THE CALIFORNIA ENDOWMENT
THE STATE'S LARGEST HEALTH FOUNDATION SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT DIRECTLY IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF CALIFORNIA'S DIVERSE COMMUNITIES. THE CALIFORNIA ENDOWMENT, A PARTNER FOR HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES.

VAL>> GOOD EVENING, I’M VAL ZAVALA.

JESS>> AND I’M JESS MARLOW. A BIT LATER, WE’LL TALK LIVE WITH MAYOR JAMES HAHN ABOUT HOW HE PLANS TO MEND FENCES WITH SECESSIONISTS, BUT FIRST SOME REACTION FROM BOTH SIDES ON TUESDAY’S HISTORIC VOTE. IT ENDED IN A MAJOR VICTORY FOR THOSE WHO WANTED TO KEEP L.A. UNITED AS ONE BIG CITY.

VAL>> BUT TODAY, THE BREAKAWAY CRUSADERS VOWED TO KEEP AN EYE ON CITY HALL AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAYOR KEEPS HIS PROMISES TO THE VALLEY AND TO HOLLYWOOD. TONIGHT GAY YEE REPORTS ON WHAT THE LOSERS ARE EXPECTING FROM THE WINNERS.

GAY YEE>> THE HEADLINE IN THE DAILY NEWS SAYS IT ALL. SECESSION FAILED, BUT IT’S NOT THE END OF THE FIGHT.

RICHARD KATZ>> IT SENDS A VERY, VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO CITY HALL AND THE MESSAGE IS THAT CHANGE IS HERE IN LOS ANGELES AND THE CHANGE IS HERE TO STAY.

GAY YEE>> ALTHOUGH THE VALLEY AND HOLLYWOOD NEVER GOT THE MAJORITY VOTE FROM ALL LOS ANGELES RESIDENTS TO ACHIEVE CITYHOOD, LEADERS IN THE VALLEY BREAKAWAY EFFORT ARE TREATING IT AS A VICTORY. MEASURE F WON FIFTY-ONE PERCENT OF THE VOTES IN THE VALLEY EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE OUTNUMBERED, OUTGUNNED, OUTSPENT BY THE OPPOSITION TEN TO ONE.

RICHARD KATZ>> IT’S NOW UP TO THE CITY TO SAY THEY GOT THE MESSAGE THAT WAS SENT LOUD AND CLEAR LAST NIGHT, THAT THIS MOVEMENT FOR LOCAL CONTROL AND SMALLER, MORE RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT IS BIGGER THAN JUST ANY ONE ELECTION AND IT MOVES ON FROM HERE.

GAY YEE>> SECESSIONISTS SAY THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE OF LOS ANGELES HAS BEEN CHANGED FOREVER. THE CHALLENGE NOW IS TO GET THE POLITICIANS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ON THE MORNING AFTER ELECTION DAY, L.A. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS GATHERED ON THE STEPS OF VAN NUYS CITY HALL, THE SYMBOLIC HEART OF THE VALLEY. THEIR MESSAGE? THEY HEARD THE WAKEUP CALL.

DENNIS ZINE>> WE’RE NOT COMING OUT WITH CHAMPAGNE AND CELEBRATING THAT SECESSION WAS DEFEATED. WE’RE HERE WITH THE COMMUNITY SAYING THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU IN PARTNERSHIP, WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS AND WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE PROMISED TO DO.

ALEX PADILLA>> WE’RE STILL NEIGHBORS, WE’RE STILL ONE CITY. THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT CONCERN US ARE STILL HERE AND IT’S TIME TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP BRING ABOUT THOSE ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS.

RON KAYE>> I SEE IT AS THE MOST REMARKABLE VICTORY.

GAY YEE>> RON KAYE IS MANAGING EDITOR AT THE DAILY NEWS. THE NEWSPAPER IS BASED IN THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY AND HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A MAJOR PROPONENT IN THE SECESSION EFFORT.

RON KAYE>> SECESSION WAS ALWAYS THE BEST WEAPON AT HAND TO MAKE THEM LISTEN. WELL, WE’VE GOT THEIR ATTENTION, BUT NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL PEOPLE PARTICIPATE AND START WORKING TOGETHER, SHARING THEIR INTERESTS AND NEEDS AND FIGHTING FOR THEMSELVES.

GAY YEE>> KAYE SAYS THE VALLEY HAS TO BE VIGILANT TO HOLD THE CITY TO ITS WORD.

RON KAYE>> I MEAN, REAL FREEDOM AND REAL DEMOCRACY IS A TWILIGHT STRUGGLE. WE’RE IN THE TWILIGHT NOW AND I THINK THAT’S NO SMALL ACHIEVEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS POLITICALLY DARK IN L.A. FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.

GAY YEE>> VALLEY SUPPORTERS SAY ALL THEY’VE EVER WANTED, HAVE EVER ASKED FOR, IS A PLACE AT THE TABLE. NOW THEY SAY THERE’S A GLIMMER OF HOPE THAT THEY JUST MAY HAVE ONE.

JESS>> IT WAS A CRUCIAL BATTLE AND A BIG VICTORY FOR LOS ANGELES MAYOR, JAMES HAHN. HE JOINS US TONIGHT, PERHAPS WITH AN OLIVE BRANCH IN HAND?

JAMES HAHN>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE MESSAGE WE JUST SAW FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS -- YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE’RE ASKING EVERYBODY TO WORK WITH US AND JOIN US IN MAKING THIS A BETTER CITY. OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLE GOT INVOLVED. THEY DIDN’T WIN YESTERDAY, BUT WE HEARD THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE THIS A BETTER CITY.

I’M GOING TO ASK BERT BACHMAN WHO WAS A LEADING PROPONENT OF THE SECESSION MOVEMENT -- I ASKED HIM TODAY WOULD HE HELP ME CONVENE A GROUP OF ALL PEOPLE WHO RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, BOTH HOLLYWOOD AND THE VALLEY, AND I WANT TO MEET WITH THEM IN DECEMBER AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT.

VAL>> BUT I’M INTERESTED IN THE REPORT THAT I’VE BEEN READING IN THE PAPER THAT YOU HAVE PLANS TO GO UP TO SACRAMENTO AND INTRODUCE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BAR ANY FUTURE SECESSION MOVEMENTS. IS THAT TRUE?

JAMES HAHN>> I SAID THAT AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE SECESSION PROPONENTS WERE SAYING THAT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE LAW AND DENY THE CITIZENS OF THE REST OF THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO BREAK UP --

VAL>> -- OH, YOU WERE RESPONDING TO SOMETHING.

JAMES HAHN>> I’M RESPONDING TO SOMETHING AND I HOPE NEITHER ONE OF US HAS TO DO THAT. WHAT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER FOR ALL OF US IS TO WORK ON HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, GET SACRAMENTO TO MAKE SURE L.A. GETS ITS FAIR SHARE OF RESOURCES.

VAL>> PLUS, I DON’T THINK IT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONAL. IT DOESN’T SOUND VERY DEMOCRATIC.

JESS>> WELL, NEITHER ISSUE WOULD HAVE PASSED CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER.

JAMES HAHN>> YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT’S BEEN VERY EXPENSIVE. THE STATE TAXPAYERS, THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS AND THE CITY TAXPAYERS SPENT UPWARDS OF $5 MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS --

VAL>> -- ON THIS WHOLE SECESSION?

JAMES HAHN>> ON THIS WHOLE SECESSION. LAFCO, ALL THE COSTS, ALL THE STUDIES, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT ON IMPROVING SERVICES IN THE VALLEY THAN HAVING THIS WHOLE THING START ALL OVER AGAIN. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, I GUESS SOMEBODY COULD START CIRCULATING ANOTHER PETITION TODAY. I THINK, RATHER THAN DO THAT, LET’S EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. BASICALLY, IT WAS FOUGHT TO A DRAW IN THE VALLEY, SLIGHTLY OVER FIFTY PERCENT. THERE ARE STILL SOME VOTES LEFT TO BE COUNTED, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT’S HARDLY THIS HUGE MANDATE. I THINK WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, LOOK, HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY SAID THEY WANTED A NEW CITY. WE’VE GOT TO RESPOND TO THAT.

JESS>> IN LOOKING AT THEIR ARGUMENTS, THEIR COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE CITY AND THEIR REASONS FOR SEEKING TO SECEDE, DID YOU LEARN OF SOME PROBLEMS IN THE VALLEY THAT YOU WERE UNAWARE OF BEFORE?

JAMES HAHN>> NO, BUT THIS HAS BEEN GROWING FOR A LONG TIME. THE IDEA THAT THE VALLEY WANTED TO BE ITS OWN CITY IS NOTHING NEW. I MEAN, IT’S BEEN BUILDING FOR MANY, MANY DECADES. WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IS WHAT I HEARD A LOT WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR. LACK OF SERVICES, LACK OF HAVING THEIR VOICE HEARD ON DECISIONS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, A FEELING OF BEING LEFT OUT AND FORGOTTEN IN THE VALLEY, NOT GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF SERVICES. THOSE WERE THE THEMES THAT, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WERE STRESSED NOT ONLY WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR, BUT DURING THIS CAMPAIGN AS WELL. I THINK WE’VE HEARD THAT MESSAGE.

WHAT WE’VE DONE IS -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE TOUGHEST BUDGET YEAR, JESS, IN TEN YEARS IN THE CITY. I HAVE LESS MONEY THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT HASN’T HAPPENED TO A MAYOR IN A LONG TIME. SO WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU CUT SERVICES? NO, WE ACTUALLY INCREASED SERVICES. WE INCREASED OUR STREET PAVING MILES. WE INCREASED OUR SIDEWALK REPAIRS. WE INCREASED TREE TRIMMING, ADDED POLICE OFFICERS, ADDED FIREFIGHTERS, ADDED PARAMEDICS. WE WANTED TO SHOW THE FOLKS IN THE VALLEY AND HOLLYWOOD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT THIS IS A NEW CITY GOVERNMENT. NEW MAYOR, NEW CITY ATTORNEY, NEW CITY CONTROLLER, A MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL BRAND NEW. WE ARE CHANGING CITY HALL AND WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO IT.

VAL>> SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT THE ANSWER -- YOU KNOW, THE BREAKING APART DIDN’T WORK, STAYING TOGETHER DOESN’T REALLY WORK, THAT BURROUGHS, THIS IDEA ALA NEW YORK OF BREAKING UP INTO A SORT OF MANAGEABLE NUMBER OF ENTITIES, IS THE ANSWER. ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF A BURROUGHS SYSTEM FOR L.A.?

JAMES HAHN>> YOU KNOW, WE JUST CHANGED THE CHARTER TWO YEARS AGO. I’M NOT OPPOSED TO BURROUGHS, BUT I DON’T KNOW IF WE NEED A NINETEENTH CENTURY IDEA FOR A TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY CITY. WE’RE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL MOVEMENT. WE’VE GOT FIFTY-FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS CERTIFIED AND HOPE TO HAVE A HUNDRED BY NEXT YEAR. WE THINK THAT’S EVEN A MORE DIRECT PARTICIPATION DEVICE.

VAL>> YEAH, BUT THEY DON’T HAVE MUCH POWER.

JAMES HAHN>> NO, THEY DON’T HAVE MUCH POWER, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO --

JESS>> -- WOULD THEY HAVE INFLUENCE?

JAMES HAHN>> THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE. CITIES THAT DO HAVE ADVISORY NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS IGNORE THE ADVICE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS AT THEIR PERIL. WE’VE SEEN THAT, EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE TIME, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL’S ADVICE IS THE DECISION THAT THE CITY COUNCILS MAKE.

JESS>> THERE WAS A GOOD BIT OF PASSION INVOLVED IN THIS CAMPAIGN. IS IT YOUR JUDGMENT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SO PASSIONATELY DETERMINED TO BE AN INDEPENDENT CITY, AS THE DAYS GO ON, WILL LOSE SOME OF THAT PASSION?

JAMES HAHN>> I WAS REALLY HEARTENED BY THE COMMENTS THAT I JUST SAW TONIGHT AND WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER ABOUT WE WANT TO HOLD THE CITY’S FEET TO THE FIRE, WE WANT TO HOLD CITY HALL ACCOUNTABLE, WE WANT TO SEE THEM STICK TO THEIR PROMISES. THAT’S AN INDICATION TO ME THAT THEY’RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US. THEY’RE GOING TO HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE. THEY’RE GOING TO BE VERY DEMANDING, BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY’VE ACCOMPLISHED THEIR GOAL. THEY WANTED TO GET A MESSAGE ACROSS. THAT MESSAGE WAS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR. IT CAN’T BE BUSINESS AS USUAL. WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY’RE A FULL PARTNER IN CITY HALL, THAT THE VALLEY, HOLLYWOOD AND EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND THEY’RE GOING TO GET THEIR FAIR SHARE.

VAL>> MAYOR JAMES HAHN, LET’S HOPE YOUR FEET DON’T GET BURNED (LAUGHTER). THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN. WE APPRECIATE IT.

JAMES HAHN>> THANK YOU.

VAL>> TOMORROW ON LIFE AND TIMES, WE’LL TAKE YOU TO A SCENIC CORNER OF UTAH, BUT THERE’S NOTHING PRETTY ABOUT THE RADIOACTIVE WASTE THERE THAT MAY BE POLLUTING L.A.’S WATER SUPPLY.

>> THE METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THEY POINT OUT THAT URANIUM IS ONE OF THE CARCINOGENS THAT IS DANGEROUS AT ANY LEVEL AND THEY DON’T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY CURRENTLY TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE WATER.

JESS>> DEMOCRATS ADMIT IT WAS TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, ESPECIALLY SINCE GRAY DAVIS WAS UP AGAINST A POLITICAL ROOKIE. BUT NATIONALLY, THE DAVIS VICTORY AND OTHER DEMOCRATS WINNING GOVERNORS’ RACES GAVE THE DEMOCRATS SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT IN THE FACE OF BIG REPUBLICAN VICTORIES ACROSS AMERICA.

VAL>> AND NOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SOME DEMOCRATS ARE TOUTING THE GOVERNOR AS A CONTENDER FOR THE WHITE HOUSE MAYBE AS SOON AS 2004. IN A MOMENT, OUR POLITICAL EXPERTS WILL CHEW ON THAT, BUT FIRST CINNY KENNARD REPORTS ON THE DAVIS VICTORY CELEBRATION.

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CINNY KENNARD>> AT THE ENDING OF AN EXPENSIVE, OFTEN BRUTAL, CAMPAIGN, GOVERNOR GRAY DAVIS RETURNED FOR A SECOND TERM, BUT NOT WITH THE MANDATE HE WANTED. IN FACT, DAVIS BEAT BACK REPUBLICAN NEWCOMER, BILL SIMON, BY JUST A NARROW 47-42 MARGIN. IT SEEMED TO STUN EVEN DAVIS.

GRAY DAVIS>> HE DID A LOT BETTER IN HIS FIRST RACE THAN I DID BACK IN 1974 AND I SEND MY VERY BEST WISHES TO HIM AND HIS WIFE, CINDY.

CINNY KENNARD>> IN VICTORY, DAVIS MADE PROMISES. HE’LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT EDUCATION, ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, AND HE PLEDGED TO GET EVERY CHILD HEALTH INSURANCE.

GRAY DAVIS>> AND I PROMISE YOU TO WORK AS HARD AS I CAN TO MAKE THIS STATE AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, MY FRIENDS, A GREAT PLACE.

CINNY KENNARD>> BUT THIS PLACE HAS A BUDGET WITH A BILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL AND A HANGOVER FROM A DEBILITATING ENERGY CRISIS. THAT’S WHAT DAVIS FACES FIRST AND HE’LL DO SO WITHOUT THE STRONG VICTORY HE SOUGHT FROM VOTERS. IN FACT, MANY CALIFORNIANS STAYED HOME ON TUESDAY AFTER A CAMPAIGN OF BIG MONEY AND NEGATIVE TELEVISION ADS. THE ARCHITECT OF THE VICTORY SAYS THE CAMPAIGN HAD TO BE THAT WAY.

GARRY SOUTH>> WHEN YOU HAVE VOTERS IN A FOUL MOOD, WHICH THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE NATIONAL ECONOMY IS ESSENTIALLY IN RECESSION, PEOPLE HAVE LOST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, SOMETIMES THEIR ENTIRE SAVINGS OUT OF THEIR 401(K) BY ALL THE CORPORATE CHICANERY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY. WHEN THE VOTERS ARE NOT HAPPY, THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS FEED THEM A BUNCH OF HAPPY-TALK PABLUM.

CINNY KENNARD>> WHATEVER THE STRATEGY IN CALIFORNIA, FOR DEMOCRATS IT'S A CLEAN SWEEP. THE PARTY CAPTURED ALL EIGHT CHIEF POSITIONS IN THE STATE. IT'S BOUND TO BOOST DAVIS ONTO THE NATIONAL STAGE, ESPECIALLY SINCE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA DEMOCRATS TOOK A BEATING.

DAVID DOAK>> THE ACTION OF THIS DEFEAT, HE'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL DEMOCRATS IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

CINNY KENNARD>> SO NOW HE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT --

DAVID DOAK>> -- NO, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HE HASN'T MENTIONED IT TO ME ONCE, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT HE WILL. BUT THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SOME PEOPLE KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR, I WOULD IMAGINE.

CINNY KENNARD>> FOR NOW, DAVIS DENIES HE'LL SEEK ANY HIGHER OFFICE. HE MUST FIRST RETURN TO SACRAMENTO TO A BUDGET WITH A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL AND JUST TWO OPTIONS: CUT PROGRAMS OR RAISE TAXES. I'M CINNY KENNARD FOR LIFE AND TIMES TONIGHT.

JESS>> WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF WEDNESDAY NIGHT QUARTERBACKS TO GIVE US THEIR READ ON DAVIS'S FUTURE AND ASSORTED OTHER POLITICAL TOPICS. SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE IS A VETERAN CAMPAIGN OBSERVER FROM USC SCHOOL OF POLICY, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. ALSO HERE IS JILL STEWART, A POLITICAL COLUMNIST AND AN EXPERT ON MATTERS AT L.A.'S CITY HALL. LADIES?

VAL>> (LAUGHTER) AHA, YOU'RE OUT NUMBERED, JESS.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> THE GIRL FOOTBALL TEAM IS NOW IN SESSION (LAUGHTER).

JESS>> (LAUGHTER) THESE ARE SOME QUARTERBACKS. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> ABOUT WHAT?

JESS>> ABOUT THE RESULTS OF YESTERDAY'S ELECTION.

VAL>> DAVIS, IN PARTICULAR.

JESS>> DAVIS, IN PARTICULAR.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> WELL, I WAS SURPRISED AT THE NARROWNESS OF THE VICTORY.

JESS>> THE POLLS WOULDN'T HAVE SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE THIS CLOSE.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> NO, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THAT POLLS WERE TAKEN A LONG TIME AGO, JESS, A LONG TIME AGO IN POLITICAL TIME. SO YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT POLLS ARE SNAPSHOTS IN TIME. BUT I WAS ASTONISHED AT THE VERY LOW TURNOUT IN L.A. COUNTY, LET ALONE STATEWIDE. I THOUGHT THAT PERHAPS THE UNIONS AND THE REPUBLICAN GET-OUT-THE-VOTE MIGHT HAVE PULLED MORE PEOPLE TO THE POLLS. IT IS TRUE. WE ARE REALLY DISGUSTED WITH THE CHOICES THAT WE HAD.

VAL>> L.A. COUNTY TURNOUT WAS FORTY-ONE PERCENT.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> FORTY-ONE PERCENT, AND THAT WAS WELL BELOW THE 1998 RECORD LOW TURNOUT. THE STATE TURNOUT WAS FORTY-FOUR PERCENT, WHICH WAS THIRTEEN POINTS BELOW THE 1998 RECORD LOW TURNOUT.

VAL>> JILL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE GOVERNOR TAKING OFFICE WITH ONLY FORTY-SEVEN PERCENT OF THE POPULAR VOTE?

JILL STEWART>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS ISN'T VOTER APATHY. THIS IS VOTER DISGUST. WE OUGHT TO AGREE ON THAT. ANY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE STILL SAYING VOTER APATHY SHOULD RETHINK THAT. THIS IS ABOUT DISGUST AND I THINK THE "FIRE GRAY DAVIS" CAMPAIGN OF THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT SIMON DID WAS REALLY THE ONLY THING IN HIS CAMPAIGN THAT WORKED. IT STARTED TO WORK. IT STARTED TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK, YEAH, WHY DO WE HAVE THIS GOVERNOR?

I WAS ON A RADIO SHOW ON MONDAY SAYING I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO HIT FIFTY PERCENT. I DON'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR CAN HIT IT. THAT WAS THE FEELING THAT WAS GOING AROUND. I BELIEVE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO SAY WE HAVE A GREAT STATE HERE, WE HAVE ALL THESE AMAZING LEADERS, WE HAVE AMAZING INDUSTRIES AND LOOK AT WHO OUR POLITICAL LEADERS ARE. THEY'RE TERRIBLE (LAUGHTER).

JESS>> HE SURVIVED AND HE STILL HAS A POLITICAL FUTURE. IT'S NO SECRET THAT GRAY DAVIS MAY BE ON THE SHORT LIST OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, BUT SOME OF DAVIS'S WORDS MAY COME BACK TO HAUNT HIM IN 2004.

GRAY DAVIS>> I DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF RUNNING FOR ANOTHER OFFICE, SO THEY'LL GET TO SEE ME FOUR MORE YEARS IF THEY'RE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE ME ANOTHER TERM.

VAL>> BELIEVE THAT?

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> I DO, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

JILL STEWART>> NO, NO.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> SHUSH (LAUGHTER). I'LL TELL YOU WHY. HE WON, IN A ONE-PARTY DEMOCRATIC STATE, HAVING SPENT $67 MILLION DOLLARS, AGAINST A NOVICE CANDIDATE WHO HAD AN INEPT CAMPAIGN WHO STUMBLED EVERY THIRD DAY ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, BY FOUR POINTS IN A ONE-PARTY STATE WHERE DEMOCRATIC REGISTRATION IS TEN POINTS ABOVE REPUBLICAN REGISTRATION. HE'S NOT GOING TO MOVE. HE SHOULDN'T MOVE FOR 2004. I WON'T PUT THE HOUSE UP FOR 2008 AND I --

JILL STEWART>> -- LET ME ARGUE THAT HE HAS WANTED TO BE THE PRESIDENT SINCE HE WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD. THE L.A. TIMES REMINDED US OF THIS IN A PROFILE JUST RECENTLY OF GRAY DAVIS. HE'S DRIVEN TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT. I THINK HE'S LYING. HE'S GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW AND HE IS ALWAYS UNDER-ESTIMATED. HE'S THE MAN WHO DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL FRIENDS, WHO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SAID THERE'S NO WAY HE'S EVER GOING TO BE OUR NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR IN THIS STATE, HE'S AN ODDBALL, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> I NEVER SAID THAT.

JILL STEWART>> A LOT OF LEADING DEMOCRATS SAID THAT.

JESS>> YOU'RE MAKING HIM SOUND A BIT LIKE RICHARD NIXON (LAUGHTER).

JILL STEWART>> (LAUGHTER) WELL, HE IS. HE'S A FOUL-MOUTHED GUY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHO DOES REALLY ODD THINGS TO HIS STAFF, LIKE PUSH AND SHOVE THEM. I HAD A COLUMN ABOUT IT IN NEW TIMES ONCE. HE'S A VERY STRANGE PERSON, BUT I THINK HE'S UNDER-ESTIMATED. I THINK HE'S GOING TO GO FOR PRESIDENT. I THINK IT'S SCARY.

VAL>> SO WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> I DON'T SEE THAT AND I DON'T MEAN ANYTHING BY -- HE IS NOT UNDER-ESTIMATED. HE IS RISK-ADVERSE, AND THE MESSAGE OUT OF THIS ELECTION WAS THAT GEORGE W. BUSH IS VERY POPULAR. IF THAT MAINTAINS AND DAVIS WELL UNDERSTANDS HE DID NOT GET A MANDATE OUT OF THIS, HE CAN WELL FINISH OUT HIS TERM, SPEND TWO YEARS BUILDING BRIDGES AND GO WHEN THE OFFICE IS OPEN IN 2008.

JILL STEWART>> AND DO WHAT? (LAUGHTER)

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> HE'LL FIND SOMETHING TO DO. HE'LL HAVE TWENTY-FOUR HOURS A DAY TO RAISE MONEY.

JESS>> ANY OTHER SURPRISES IN YESTERDAY'S ELECTION?

JILL STEWART>> WELL, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S A DEMOCRATIC SWEEP OF ALL OF THE OFFICES --

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> -- MAYBE.

JILL STEWART>> PROBABLY. WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT CONTROLLER. THAT'S THE PERSON WHO WRITES THE CHECKS AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE A BLOODBATH OF, I BELIEVE, STATE LAYOFFS OF GOVERNMENT WORKERS, HIGHER TAXES FOR CALIFORNIANS, CUTBACKS IN EVERYTHING FROM HEALTH CLINICS TO YOU NAME IT. IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY UP THERE IN SACRAMENTO. EVERYBODY IS GOING TO FEEL IT. A LOT OF BLAME IS GOING TO GO ON THE DEMOCRATS. SHERRY AND I WERE SAYING WHY DID THE DEMOCRATS EVEN WANT TO WIN CONTROL OF --

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> -- I DON'T KNOW WHY EITHER OF THEM WANTED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR BECAUSE, AFTER THAT, THEY HAVE TO GOVERN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY PAINFUL EXERCISE.

JILL STEWART>> THEY'RE GOING TO BE BLAMED. THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF THIS ON THEMSELVES AND NOW THEY'VE WON OFFICE AND THEY GET TO CONTROL ALL OF IT.

VAL>> REAL QUICK COMMENT ON LOCAL ISSUES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THE MEASURE THAT WOULD INCREASE PROPERTY TAX IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR TRAUMA CARE SYSTEM PASSED WITH MORE THAN TWO-THIRDS. PEOPLE VOTED TO TAX THEMSELVES.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> WELL, MY HUSBAND WAS A PART OF THAT ON THE YES SIDE OF MEASURE B, SO YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT, BUT --

JESS>> -- AND YOU ALWAYS AGREE WITH HIM (LAUGHTER).

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> HARDLY (LAUGHTER). THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE WHO CAN VOUCH FOR THAT. HE COMES ON NEXT. BUT APPARENTLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS THINGS BEGAN TO TURN AROUND DURING THE SNIPER SITUATION AND THEN THE PILEUP ON THE LONG BEACH FREEWAY. IT REALLY POINTED OUT, VERY CLOSE TO HOME, THE NEED FOR TRAUMA CENTERS WHICH ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND THAT REALLY BEGAN THE TURNAROUND.

VAL>> AND WE ARE ALL VULNERABLE. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE FROM USC AND POLITICAL COLUMNIST, JILL STEWART. GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.

JILL STEWART>> THANK YOU.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE>> THANK YOU.

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JESS>> WHILE THE POLITICIANS AND THEIR SPIN-MEISTERS CONTINUE TO SEARCH FOR MEANING IN THE ELECTION RESULTS, PATT MORRISON HAS ALREADY FOUND IT. IT'S TONIGHT'S INFINITELY MORRISON.

PATT MORRISON>> HOW MANY TIMES DO THEY HAVE TO SAY IT AND HOW MANY TIMES DO WE PERSIST IN IGNORING IT? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. IT MIGHT COME TRUE. IT WAS SWEEPS WEEK IN POLITICS THIS WEEK. IN WASHINGTON, THE REPUBLICANS SWEPT CAPITOL HILL AND, IN SACRAMENTO, THE DEMOCRATS SWEPT THE LEGISLATURE AND ALL THE STATEWIDE OFFICES.

IN LOS ANGELES, THE SECESSION VOTES FOR BOTH THE VALLEY AND HOLLYWOOD LOST AND NOBODY SHOULD BE KICKING OVER THE TRACES TO CELEBRATE BECAUSE THE MORNING AFTER AN ELECTION LIKE THIS IS WHEN THE POLITICS HAS TO STOP AND THE STATESMANSHIP MUST BEGIN. IN L.A., THE LOSING VOTE ON SECESSION MEANS IT'S PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME AT CITY HALL. IT'S TIME TO START FIXING WHATEVER IT WAS THAT MADE PEOPLE UNHAPPY ENOUGH TO WANT TO DIVORCE LOS ANGELES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IN SACRAMENTO, THE DEMOCRATS MUST ASK THEMSELVES HOW TO ACT RESPONSIBLY AND NOT LIKE BULLIES. WHAT ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIANS WHO DIDN'T VOTE? WHAT ARE THEIR INTERESTS AND HOW ARE THEY BEING MET? IN WASHINGTON, THE MAJORITY IS RAZOR THIN IN THE SENATE AS IT WAS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TWO YEARS AGO AND THE QUESTION THE NEW CONGRESS SHOULD ASK ITSELF IS HOW TO ACT FIRST IN THE INTERESTS OF THE NATION, NOT THE PARTY.

WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THIS HAPPENING? WHAT DO YOU THINK? THE PARTISAN MANTRA IS THAT THE NEXT CAMPAIGN BEGINS WHEN THE LAST VOTE IS COUNTED. IT'S THAT KIND OF THINKING, CLAIMING MANDATES THAT DON'T EXIST, THAT KEEP CITIZENS FROM BECOMING VOTERS. IN FACT, THE BIGGER THE MARGIN OF VICTORY, THE MORE WORRIED THE WINNING POLITICIANS SHOULD BE. WHY? BECAUSE WHATEVER ELSE IT MEANS, SINGLE PARTY DOMINATION MEANS THIS. WHEN THINGS GO WRONG, AND SOMETHING INVARIABLY WILL, DON'T BOTHER LOOKING AROUND FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME. IT'S ALL YOURS.

VAL>> AMERICA'S FIRST GREAT POLITICIAN WAS ACTUALLY RELUCTANT TO SERVE AND NEVER REALLY CRAVED PUBLIC OFFICE. BUT HE FELT IT WAS HIS DUTY AND, FOR THAT, HE GOT HIS PICTURE ON THE ONE DOLLAR BILL. BUT A MUCH MORE FLATTERING PORTRAIT OF GEORGE WASHINGTON IS ON A NATIONAL TOUR AND BOUND FOR LOS ANGELES. THIS NATIONAL ICON WAS PAINTED IN 1796 BY GILBERT STUART, YET IS KNOWN AS THE LANSDOWNE PORTRAIT. WE'LL EXPLAIN WHY IN A MOMENT. THE PAINTING ARRIVES THIS WEEK TO BE DISPLAYED AT THE L.A. COUNTY MUSEUM OF ART.

JESS>> MARC PACHTER HEADS THE SMITHSONIAN'S NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY WHERE THE WASHINGTON PAINTING NORMALLY RESIDES. HE IS HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE NATIONAL TOUR. THE "ROLLING STONES" DO NATIONAL TOURS, BUT PORTRAITS?

MARC PACHTER>> WE CAME VERY CLOSE TO HAVING A T-SHIRT (LAUGHTER) WITH ALL THE TOUR SITES. BY THE WAY, IT'S A BIG DEAL THAT L.A. GOT IT AND I'M GOING TO PRETEND THAT IT'S BECAUSE I'M FROM L.A. AND I HAD INFLUENCE.

JESS>> I'M SURE YOU DID.

MARC PACHTER>> BUT BASICALLY THIS PORTRAIT WILL NEVER LEAVE AGAIN, WILL NEVER LEAVE WASHINGTON, AFTER THIS TRIP.

VAL>> REALLY?

MARC PACHTER>> SO PICKING OUT THOSE PLACES IT WAS GOING TO GO WAS A VERY BIG DEAL.

JESS>> SEVEN CITIES?

MARC PACHTER>> SEVEN CITIES.

VAL>> LAS VEGAS, HOUSTON, L.A.?

MARC PACHTER>> HOUSTON, ACTUALLY ALL IN THE WEST. IT'S THE GREAT WESTERN TOUR. THE IDEA IS, THIS PORTRAIT -- I'LL TELL YOU WHY IT MATTERS THAT IT'S COMING HERE. WE SENT IT AS FAR AWAY AS WE COULD BECAUSE OF HOW HARD IT IS TO GET TO WASHINGTON AND THIS BELONGS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SO WE DELIBERATELY WENT TO THE WEST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HERE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE.

VAL>> AND AS WE'RE SEEING PICTURES OF IT NOW, PEOPLE WILL RECOGNIZE IT IMMEDIATELY. THE MOST OFTEN VIEWED PICTURE OF GEORGE WASHINGTON.

JESS>> NOW THERE WAS ONE OF THESE IN THE WHITE HOUSE TOO?

MARC PACHTER>> THERE IS. IT'S A COPY. WE RESPECT IT BECAUSE DOLLY MADISON SAVED IT. BUT THE REASON IT'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS BECAUSE HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR PRESIDENT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE PHOTOGRAPHY, BEFORE TELEVISION? THIS IS THE TELEVISION OF ITS DAY, SO HAVING COPIES OF THIS WAS VERY IMPORTANT. BUT THIS WAS THE IMAGE THAT EVERYBODY NEEDED AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOCKING THEM OFF, BY THE WAY. WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE GILBERT STUART DID THE ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

JESS>> OH, REALLY?

MARC PACHTER>> THEY WERE DOING IT BECAUSE THIS WAS THE IMAGE OF THE PRESIDENCY. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A PRESIDENT WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. THEY SAID LET GEORGE DO IT, BASICALLY. THE CONSTITUTION HAS A COUPLE OF LINES IN THE PRESIDENCY, SO THIS IS IN HIS LAST YEAR OF OFFICE SUMMING UP WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE MEANS. IT'S THE ONLY TIME HE APPEARS FULL-LENGTH WITHOUT A UNIFORM.

JESS>> AND IT'S BEING RETOUCHED?

MARC PACHTER>> IT'S BEING RETOUCHED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO -- IT WAS IN GOOD SHAPE WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, BY THE WAY, FOR $20 MILLION DOLLARS, THIRD HIGHEST AMOUNT OF MONEY EVER PAID FOR AN AMERICAN WORK OF ART. I'LL TELL YOU HOW WE FOUND THAT IF WE HAVE THE TIME. BUT IT WAS IN GOOD SHAPE. WHAT WE DO WITH ALL WORKS OF ART IS DO THE ANALYSIS AND, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY BECAUSE THIS WAS ACTUALLY OWNED BY AN ENGLISHMAN, AN ENGLISH ARISTOCRAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE ORIGINAL GEORGE. SO WE NEEDED TO GET A LOOK A CLOSE LOOK AT IT AND THIS GLAMOROUS WOMAN, OUR CONSERVATOR, LOU MOLNAR, WAS THE ONE WE TRUSTED WITH SOMETHING WHICH IS AS VALUABLE AS THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS. SHE IS MAKING IT GLOW FOR THE AGES.

VAL>> NOW TELL US, WHY IS IT CALLED THE LANSDOWNE PORTRAIT? BECAUSE LANSDOWNE IS NEITHER THE ARTIST NOR THE PERSON WHO PAID FOR THE PAINTING --

MARC PACHTER>> -- NOT GILBERT STUART, NOT GEORGE WASHINGTON. IT'S CALLED THE LANSDOWNE PORTRAIT BECAUSE IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY A SENATOR FROM PHILADELPHIA WHO WAS GIVING IT AS A TRIBUTE TO ONE OF THE ENGLISHMEN WHO GOT THE FACT THAT AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE WAS A GOOD IDEA. SO IT WAS IN GRATITUDE TO THE BRIT WHO SUPPORTED OUR INDEPENDENCE. THAT WAS LANSDOWNE.

VAL>> LANSDOWNE, AND THAT'S WHY THE PAINTING --

MARC PACHTER>> -- THAT'S WHY IT WENT TO ENGLAND.

VAL>> AND STAYED THERE FOR A LONG TIME?

MARC PACHTER>> THAT'S WHY THE ORIGINAL WENT TO ENGLAND, STAYED THERE FOR ALMOST TWO HUNDRED YEARS AND THE SMITHSONIAN GOT TO BORROW IT FOR A WHILE. WE GOT KIND OF USED TO HAVING IT AROUND AND THEN THE OWNER, WHO'S ANOTHER ENGLISH ARISTOCRAT NOW, SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO SELL IT. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SOLD ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. I HAD NIGHTMARES OF SADDAM HUSSEIN BUYING IT AND BURNING IT IN BAGHDAD (LAUGHTER). IT WAS VERY MOTIVATING. SO I WENT ON TELEVISION, WENT TO THE NATION, AND THE DONALD W. REYNOLDS FOUNDATION OF LAS VEGAS, NEVADA, CAME THROUGH. THEY GAVE US NOT ONLY THE $20 MILLION FOR IT, BUT $4 MILLION FOR THE GALLERY WHERE IT'S GOING TO GLOW FOREVER AT THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY IN WASHINGTON.

VAL>> OH, THAT'S WHY IT'S STOPPING IN LAS VEGAS.

JESS>> YEAH, I WONDERED WHY LAS VEGAS WAS ONE OF THE SEVEN --

MARC PACHTER>> -- LAS VEGAS DID US A BIG FAVOR AND GAVE US $6 MILLION DOLLARS TO TRAVEL IT AROUND THE COUNTRY SO THAT AS MANY AMERICANS, PARTICULARLY YOUNG AMERICANS, CAN SEE IT.

JESS>> BUT THIS IS THE MOST FAMILIAR PORTRAIT.

MARC PACHTER>> AND IT'S AS CLOSE -- BASICALLY, GEORGE WASHINGTON IS CHECKING OUT LOS ANGELES -- THIS IS AS CLOSE AS L.A. WILL EVER GET TO A VISIT BY GEORGE WASHINGTON.

JESS>> BUT EVERY SCHOOL CHILD HAS SEEN THAT.

MARC PACHTER>> ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY, AND THIS IS THE REAL THING. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL.

VAL>> THERE'S ALSO A LETTER -- I WISH WE COULD SHOW IT -- WHERE HE AGREES TO "SET" FOR THE ARTIST, S-E-T. WAS THAT THE SAME WORD AS "SIT" FOR THE ARTIST?

MARC PACHTER>> YEAH, YEAH. IT WAS AS CLOSE AS HE WAS GOING TO GET. BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, HE NEVER WENT TO COLLEGE.

VAL>> OH, OKAY. MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS THE WRITING. I'M GLAD HE DIDN'T WRITE OUR CONSTITUTION, IF YOU READ THE LETTER (LAUGHTER).

MARC PACHTER>> THIS IS THE ROSETTA STONE, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE IT'S THE GUARANTEE THAT HE SAT FOR THE PORTRAIT.

JESS>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO MARC PACHTER FROM THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY IN WASHINGTON. "GEORGE WASHINGTON: A NATIONAL TREASURE" IS THE NAME OF THE EXHIBIT. THE PORTRAIT IS ON DISPLAY AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MUSEUM OF ART BEGINNING FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 8 THROUGH MARCH OF NEXT YEAR. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS MASTERPIECE, YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE ON YOUR SCREEN, WWW.GEORGEWASHINGTON.SI.EDU.

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