The City that's No Longer Here

KCET will air an upcoming special in June it's acquiring from award winning producers Saul Gonzalez and Isaac Mizrahi.

"Things That Aren't Here Anymore 3" follows the tradition of popular specials about Southern California's past. Created by the producers of the original "Things", the show will explore and celebrate beloved Southland places of the 1960s, 70s and early 80s.

Here's an open call for your help. I hope you agree this promises to be a lot of fun.

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Do you have vivid memories of favorite music clubs, restaurants, hangouts, stores, and family attractions that helped to define the era? Just as important, do you have photos and other material related to those places? If so, please contact producers Saul Gonzalez and Isaac Mizrahi at things3@kcet.org; or leave them a message at 747.201.5401.

Possible stops on the journey could include legendary music venues such as The Starwood, Pandora's Box, The Masque and The Golden Bear; coffees shops, drive-ins and diners like Ben Frank's and Tiny Naylors; and family attractions like Orange County's Japanese Garden and Deer Park, Marineland and Flipper's Roller Rink.

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We know people have fond memories of these things that aren't here anymore and countless others places, so share the nostalgia and send Saul and Isaac your ideas.

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Bohdan is Senior Vice President, Broadcast, Syndication, and Program Development for KCETLink.
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Ah, yes, Tiny Naylors. I grew up a mile away from there. Fond memories, like when the waitress once served me a hot chocolate with her thumb submerged half an inch inside the drink.

I really, really, miss drive-ins, i.e. the movie kind...

I watched the T.A.M.I show tonight and ordered it right off.
I lived in Orange County, Hungtington Beach (sorry people, all of you living there now) it was wonderful back in the day. We had a place called "The Retails Clerk Auditorium" was located across the street from "Knotts Berry Farm" where alot of these acts performed. Every Friday & Sat. night for $2.00.
Those were the days!!!!!!!!

I grew up in Culver City in the early 60's and 70's. I remember when the first Sizzlers Resturant opened on the corner of Jefferson and Sepulveda. Their tag line then was 'Come in and cook your own steaks'. My father took us to that resturant and did indeed cook our steaks for us.
I especially remember the sawdust on the concrete floor and how my father yelled at me for tossing it around the wooden picknic table.
Oh, the good ol days.

In West Hollywood there was a gay dance club called Studio One and it was hopping during the Disco days. It also included a nightclub called The Back Lot and wonderful enterainers like Chita Rivera, Bernadette Peters, Waylin Flowers and Madam, and many others, would headline there. It seems to me to have been one of the last such clubs in the city and its loss is really felt.

I remember the Lighthouse Jazz club in Hermosa Beach. Some of the greats played there a long time ago and it is not there any more. Thank you

Remember Mary's hour at the Coliseum in the 60's.
We would all gather on a Sunday in May to honor Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. the coliseum was filled, 90,000+ for one or two hours of prayer. What a sight.

I remember Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica and the Pike in Long Beach. There were all the old Drive-ins thruout the the San Gabriel Valley as well as the theaters especially in downtown L.A. They were really grand. How bout the zoo and roller rink at Lincoln Park in Lincoln Heights. Then there was the Eastside and 102 Breweries in L.A. that were quite a sight. Who can also forget the El Monte Legion stadium or the teen-age fair that was held annually at the Hollywood Palladium. Before the drive thru hamberger joints there were the drive-ins where the waitress came to your car or the small juke boxes on the counters in diners How bout the incinerators everyone had in their back yards. Life in L.A. has surely changed.

Growing up in Orange County in the 70's and 80's I remember many local attractions that are no longer there like The Alligator Farm in Buena Park, The Skate Ranch in Santa Ana, thousands of acres of orange groves in Placentia, Lion Country Safari in Irvine, the Busch Gardens L.A. and more...good times.

I remember when they used to close off Sepulveda Blvd. with a gate to allow the Pam Am clippers to take off (this was long before the tunnel under the LAX runways). There was a Clock restaurant and miniature golf course in Westchester. Not to mention the Centinella and Studio drive-in movie theaters.

what ever happened to the Rainbow Roller Rink and Coffee Dan's in Van Nuys? In the late 50's and early 60's these were the big hang outs. Sight and Sound Music store with sound booths where you could play records before you bought them on Victory Blvd. and VN Blvd.was always crowded. Butler Bros. department store on Van Nuys Blvd. was THE place to shop. What happened to the Santa Claus parade? Orange Groves and the Schlitz Brewery on Van Nuys blvd near Roscoe Blvd.? Liberace's house in Sherman Oaks had a piano in christmas lights on his roof during the holidays. an animated Liberace also made of christmas lights "played" the piano. Does anyone remember Magoos in Hollywood? wow...i'm old!

When I first moved to L.A. in the late 60s, I lived in the Mid-Wilshire area and used to go to Ollie Hammond's Steak House on 8th Street, and the Holland House Cafeteria on Wilshire and Irolo. My wife and I went to to the Bull and Bush for delicious steaks at great prices! When we moved to the Valley, Busch Gardens at the Anheuser Busch brewery was a great attraction for families, and the free beer and pretzels made the day!

Marty,

The Lighthouse is still there. They still have a Sunday Jazz Brunch, and there is jazz on Thursday evenings.

Does anybody remember Shelly's Manne Hole ? - I believe it was on Cahuenga.

Larry

I do recall many of the places already mentioned in previous comments, especially the many drive-in movie theaters in the San Gabriel valley. I began growing up in So. El Monte (1960-1968) then finished growing up where I currently reside in La Puente. There was a fantastic old country-style market located on Valley Blvd. in El Monte called Crawford's. There was a quaint little amusement park area located in the parking lot of Crawford's that I used to love as a young child. Whenever my parents would go shopping there I would go along exitedly with expexctations of at least one or two of the rides, until the day we arrived and the rides were gone. They paved paradise and put up a parking lot! Just a few blocks away was the night club known as the Nashville West located at "5 Points" where Garvey Ave. and Valley Blvd. crossed. Now gone, this was a famous country music gathering place, even had a song written about it by the same, "Nashville West", by the Byrds!

How about Howard Rumsey's Concerts By the Sea?

One restaurant I miss in Culver City is Jay Handal's San Gennaro--a really bright spot with great food, live music and dancing. He really brought a very special dining experience to our downtown, in fact he was the driving force in re-vitalizing Downtown Culver City, and was the victim of his own success, in having his rent raised to a level that prevented him from continuing.

A&W Root Beer stands and being served by carhops. Teenage Fairs at the Hollywood Palladium. Wil Wrights ice cream parlours. Standing in line for 2 hours to see a new movie premier in Westwood weeks before it would come to our local theater(s). Going to Griffith Park Observatory's Lazerium shows.

I. Magnin, Robinson's, May Co.,Jerry Magnin, so many disappearing stores....replaced by Barney's New York and malls...

Whiskey a Go-Go the Doors playing there and also had a room there. Brown Derby Restaraunt

I moved to Sherman Oaks in 1958 as a new bride. I remember the Queens & the King's Arms restaurants on Ventura Blvd. Plus many others where you could get a steak meal with all the trimmings for under $5. We also frequented Jean's Blue Room, a very reasonable french owned restaurant. Devonshire Blvd.near to where I now live was a 2 lane St. with trees on both sides that met at the center, horse ranches & orange groves. It was so lovely & quiet in those days and I wish the Valley could have stayed that way!

I was born in Culver City in 1955 and raised in Redondo Beach. Redondo used to be the quintessential cool, sleepy beach town and everyone I ever came across who lived there just loved it. In the 1960's in my neighborhood alone, we had police officers, a Marshal, L.A. County Sheriff's Deputies, firefighters, aerospace engineers, grocery clerks... you name it. And there were people of every ethnicity, but everyone got along. No bigotry in my neighborhood. Period! But now that Redondo Beach has become "ReCondo Beach", and people don't seem to know their next-door neighbors any more (and this is all over town), my wife and I are VERY happy to be living in Culver City once again. That makes it the third time for myself and the second time for my wife, who is from Santa Maria, CA (and where I also lived for ten years). I can tell you from personal experience this is a MUCH better place to live than there!

I remember going to The Golden Temple of Conscious Cookey over on 3rd and Fairfax Avenue on cold rainy nights and getting steamy Yogi Tea and Wha Pudding that made warm fuzzies in my life.

I also miss the drive-ins. I had the best dates in a drive-in eating bad food and listening to a movie on a speaker that sounded like it was made out of tin, that hung from my window!

Van de Kamp's Restaurant on Wilshire. AFter church on Sunday's we would go and I would order Indian peaches. So exotic for a seven year old in the 60's. Also, there was a restaurant I think was called Poor Richards and it was near Baldwin Hills and it a a train running around the ceiling's edge. Fun for kids.

I grew up in North Hollywood in the 1940s & 50s. Bob's Big Boy restaurant is still on Riverside Dr. in Toluca Lake but I don't think they have drive up service in the back any more. I got my first driving ticket on my first outing with my girlfrinds in my first car at that corner. They put a temporary no left hand turn sign in the middle of the intersection and I never saw it. I was so concerned about watching the traffic I don't know how I didn't knock it over. What a bumber! Riverside Drive and Van Nuys Blvd. were the roads to cruise on Friday and Saturday nights.

Nate & Al's, Best Deli in Town, Beverly Hills
Senior waitresses; like red-haired and fiesty Phylis who insulted you with the best of them and any New Yorker (I originate from New York) ... and just think, we got to pay for that with a smile and a generous tip ... I'll never forget the day she insisted that my toddler (as I was placing him in the highchair) have the famous "bagel on a string" around his neck and I proclaimed (as a fairly new mother) "Phylis, don't you think that is a dangerous thing? what if he chokes? she replied with her 80 year old smokers voice...
"I haven't lost one yet!" as she walked away with our order .... needless to say ... my son continued to eat his bagel on a string!
and Phylis still got her generous tip!

Open Air Drive In Theater, West Los Angeles.

Remember the drive in theater on the corner of Olympic Blvd. and Bundy? It was huge! Now it is the Cadillac dealership.

I remember the Bob's Big Boy in Toluca Lake, and yes, they do have drive in service on the weekend. On Friday night, they have old cars come in and park so everyone can enjoy seeing the old cars, etc. I also remember Sargeant's Restaurant in Burbank. It was the only restaurant that had these little rounds of dough that were delicious. I also remember the Pickwick Drive In. Our family would take a bag of popcorn, candy, and Hire's Root Beer to the movies. I also remember going roller skating in North Hollywood and in Glendale. Does anyone remember the dime stores' called Newberry's or Woolworth's? What a fun experience going there to spend my allowance. Also, I do remember Currie's Ice Cream, the mile high ice cream!

Gemco, White Front, Zody's, Two Guys, Good Guys, Fedco, Silo, etc - all major department stores no longer here.

So many things remembered and forgotten;

The freeways were not packed. And there were not as many locks on doors and fences. It was a simplier time. Not as many choices to want not as many things. My grandmother said "there are 7 days, you only need 7 outfits".

My parents used to take me to the Carnation Restaurant (run by the Carnation dairy people) on Wilshire near Rossmore = great chocolate chip ice cream. That was the place with the many selections of flavors. Might have been as many as ten. Was way before Baskins Robbins.

They also took me to the Crescendo night club on the Sunset Strip to see Lionel Hampton. Think I was 7. I had my first Shirley Temple (7up and cherry juice with a cherry on top).

There was Wallich's Music City. You could sit in a windowed booth looking out on Sunset and Vine and listen to the current records before buying them (or maybe not buying).

In the late '50s had my first job at a restaurant on Sunset near Gardner. It paid 25 cents to sweep up and put the chairs in place for the afternoon patrons. For 25 cents I could go just down the street to the Oriental movie theater and see a newsreel, several cartoons, a double feature and play a game (think it was bingo) to win dishes and glasses.

Shelley's Manhole Jazz Club was on Cosmos St, often called Cosmo Alley because it was so narrow. Used to ditch out of my high school dances early to go there (I looked older).

Ben Franks coffee shop had a french toast stuffed with cream cheese and orange marmalade. That was probably before they invented calories.

However we were a very segregated society. When I was about 8 lived at 2nd Avenue and Washington. When anyone who was not white came to rent, the landlady would always tell them the rent was twice the price everyone was paying. She found a black couple who said they would pay. She moved and evicted all the tenants to get double charge people. I had come from a integrated area of New York and my parents had friends of many races and cultures. No one could ever explain that to me when I was a child. Later I knew why, but still do not understand.

Wow, you remember all the things I remember! where did you grow up? I grew up in the Silverlake area not many remembered the teenage fair, but I loved the teenage fair, never missed a day! and then down to Wallach's music city to listen to records in the booths that they had, and were open 24 hours!! we had an incinerator, and we'd pass right by the Brew 102 building on the 101 freeway right at the squiggley curve right before the 10 fwy, yes your'e right, life in L.A. has surely changed! but i'm feel so fortunate to have seen it at it's best!!

Currys! the big ice cream cone in the sky! ours was on Riverside DR. and Glendale I believe, my mom would take me there after our Dr.'s appt. in Los Feliz, and does anyone remember the old Glendale caferteria,one of the last of the old caferterias of the day, and that turned into the Swedish Table, the best darn swedish meatballs, and pineapple fritters on earth!! right next door to the Alex theater on Brand Blvd. where I got to witness the first closed circuit telecast in L.A., who else could it be? why the Beatles of course! those were the days!

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- The Tikis on Potrero Grande in Monterey Park.
- Gorky's, downtown L.A.
- C.C. Brown's, Hollywood Blvd.
- Any skateboard park built in the 70s. (I'm thinking of the one that's buried south of the Pomona Fwy. in Montebello.)
- Nickodell on Melrose Ave.
- Osko's on La Cienega
- Voyage Through Innerspace, Disneyland (I know it's very specific, but as a kid I loved this ride and though Star Tours is fun, it's no Voyage Through Innerspace. Plus, it disappeared in the 80s.)
- Santa's Village, San Bernardino (Did Huell already do this story? Who knew it was open until 2006? http://www.santasvillage.net/santas.village.history.html)

2nds to the Alligator Farm, Japanese Deer Park, Busch Gardens & Marineland

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Grew up in Culver City in the 60s. So sorry Kowloons on Pico is gone. We loved that as kids and as adults when we could order a Scorpion with two straws.
Also, Woody's on Sepulveda for great hamburgers and farther up towards the airport, Airport Village. We called the hamburger joint, the Green Nineteen. Can't even remember the original name but that was the neon sign, 19 cents, in green. (the original Sizzler was there, too.)